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We received new SDI I/O cards from our partners SoftLab-NSK. Is it possible to use these cards as output? If yes, who need to do some integration job?
Vidblaster or SoftLab-NSK?
Best regards,
Janis
I've never heard of these cards. If it acts like a normal video card you should be able to select it in the Video Out module. If not I would have to write a driver for it.
strateg2711
18 Oct 2011, 11:06
http://www.softlab.tv/index.html
Hi Mike,
I've sent Vidblaster demo to card developers and they are asking for some debug mode to understand, why video is not showing using Camera II module.
Additionally I would like to know, what is needed to support these cards for Video Out like Blackmagic devices.
Janis
No debug mode necessary. If the card does not show up as input device it's because it does not come with a DirectShow driver. For output, as I mentioned earlier, it either needs to act as a graphics card or I need to write a special driver for it. I only do that if there is sufficient demand, or if I get paid for it.
Problem is, that in module Camera card is working well, but in Camera II it doesn't show picture and I cannot change any input settings.
Assuming you use v2.12 you can start a profile with just Camera II and this card selected, and then mail me the log. But without having this card I probably can't make it work.
Please comment this issue.
We need some deeper instructions for card manufacturers and/or how exactly Vidblaster communicates with devices using Camera II module.
To update drivers is not an answer, because I am working closely with developer team.
Janis
OK, I will send You log ASAP.
Thank You for fast response. :)
Hi Mike,
I'm ready to send You SoftLab-NSK FD422 card.
What is next steps?
Janis
Please understand I do not make any promises I can make this card work. Also, to protect my investment in this, I will have to keep the card so at any time I can use it to fix any support issues. Once it is supported in VidBlaster I'd appreciate a short post about it where you describe the card, maybe include a photo or video and compare it with other cards, so we can introduce it to others in the wiki.
If you agree with this then email me for my postal address.
We are accepting Your terms and will send You sample card soon. :)
Is it possible to do the same with other card manufacturer?
Janis
Yes, I have done so before.
I received two cards from you without documentation or software, is that correct?
Yes, that is correct, because these are purely demo samples.
I will send You drivers and software for both of these cards tomorrow.
Documentation and detailed specs is in process and will be ready very soon.
Soon there will be miniPCIE SDI and HDMI input cards available which maybe interesting for mobile applications.
Just got permission from both vendors to give documentation and software without NDA.
This means both cards are ready to roll in public market.
I sent links to latest drivers for both cards.
Here is more information for these cards:
http://www.yuan.com.tw/en/products/surveillance/surveillance_products1_1_spec_sc510.htm#sc510
This HDMI 4CH input card has passed many stability tests in our demo studio.
Working with VidBlaster Camera I module flawlessly in all possible resolutions.
Tested with various motherboards based on X58 and X79 chipsets.
This card definitely rocks in terms of price/performance.
Let's move on to next one:
http://www.softlab-nsk.com/forward/specs2.html
This SDI 2CH SD or 1CH HD input/output card is built on highest quality component basis and targeted for TV Broadcasters.
Also working with VidBlaster w/o any problem ,except for Camera II module, just like YUAN cards.
Also there will be 4 CH version of this card soon available.
Support team is always ready to help if any problem arise and hotfixes are made very quickly. Just like Vidblaster does. :)
Janis
Thank you. So tell me, these are just 2 cards you need, or do you have some connection to either manufacturer? Can you give me prices of these cards?
These are only one of models from both manufacturers.
Yes, We have connection to both manufacturers as resellers and partners.
Retail prices are not yet established, but I can tell that SoftLab-NSK cards will cost something like AJA card series, and YUAN will be cheaper than BlackMagic.
weconverse
22 Apr 2012, 15:48
Janis, have you had the opportunity to test the cards with newer generations of Intels architecture, eg Sandy Bridge and 2011 socket, or even more recent sockets/chipsets. 1366 socket CPU:s, and mobos based on the X58 chipset will soon not be possible to buy. Except perhaps in used condition.
These cards works perfectly on Intel X79 chipset based motherboards.
Tested on MSI X79A-GD45 and Intel DX79SI boards.
weconverse
23 Apr 2012, 16:16
Way cool, cause I really would like to be able to switch multi hdmi with VidBlaster. Besides Mike perhaps fixing support for Camera II, how does one buy the cards? Are they released yet?
Switching up to 4 HDMI inputs with just 1 card is really cool.
I hope Mike will add Camera II and Video Out support for these cards soon. :)
Cards will be ready to ship in few weeks from now.
They will be available in our ebay store.
I had a whole week reserved for this a few weeks back but was missing the drivers. Now I am up to my neck in the new VVD. When it's done please remind me to look at this. Or open a feature request for it so I won't forget.
As new shiny VVD is out here, I'm reminding of next great thing for VidBlaster. :)
Well, I don't know about that (we're still waiting for prices) but I have installed the 4*HDMI card in a PC. Now looking for the drivers.
Don't like to install codecs, is that required?
For the wiki article: only install the driver package!
For the manufacturer: the inputs are called analog (it's HDMI..) and the DirectShow filter does not scale the frames even though it exposes them in other than native resolutions: either only offer the native resolution (in which case VidBlaster will scale for you) or properly scale to the resolutions you offer.
I can confirm the card does not work in Camera II.
Janis, I assumed you wanted it to work in Camera II because of its superior deinterlacer, but I notice the card has a built-in deinterlacer?
Problem fixed.
For the wiki: for this card to work properly use the Camera II module and set the module's video resolution to the video signal's resolution (in my case 720*576).
Looks like a nice card if offered for the right price. I'll leave it on for a while to test its stability but so far have not seen any problems.
weconverse
07 May 2012, 11:16
Mika, have you tried using all 4 inputs simultanously? At 720p or whatever higher than SD?
cuuuurious...
No, I'll leave that up to others. I just make sure the software works :)
Installing the FD422, 2/2 ch SDI I/O card.
For the wiki: don't install the MPEG-2 decoder (default).
Even though the driver installed successfully and is visible as device, no DirectShow (source nor renderer) filter has been installed. Possibly an omission or lack of W7/64 support. As it is now the card cannot be used in VidBlaster.
Thanks Mike for testing results!
Regarding YUAN HDMI card:
Don't like to install codecs, is that required?
For Vidblaster use You can pass codec package.
the inputs are called analog
It's just Device manager shows 4 analog input devices.
I will talk to programmers how to fix it.
for this card to work properly use the Camera II module and set the module's video resolution to the video signal's resolution
That's correct.
you wanted it to work in Camera II because of its superior deinterlacer?
We wanted these cards to work with Camera II because of HD resolution optimizations and overall stability.
Looks like a nice card
Yes, we like it too :)
have you tried using all 4 inputs simultanously?
Yes we have tested all 4 inputs simultaneously up to 1920x1080. Works like a charm even if resolution and/or frame rate is different for each input.
FD422 answers:
don't install the MPEG-2 decoder (default)
It's up to You.
This contains broadcast grade MPEG-2 decoder used by BBC playout titling systems.
no DirectShow (source nor renderer) filter has been installed.
Open tool FDConfig and select capture input. I'll edit this step tomorrow with precise instructions.
Possibly an omission or lack of W7/64 support.
It's totally compatible with W7/64.
There is also so called "whitelist". This card works out of the box with software, which has passed stability tests by Softlab-NSK or it's partners.
I'll send you activation for Vidblaster.
It also does not work with the test software that comes with it. Anyway, if special instructions are needed I'd appreciate you give them before I start testing, not afterwards. My time is limited.
zenvideo
08 May 2012, 11:35
Looks like a nice card if offered for the right price. I'll leave it on for a while to test its stability but so far have not seen any problems.
I will certainly hunt out Yuan at the big IFSEC 2012 security industry show in Birmingham next week and see about getting one of these cards, and look for any other capture cards and related items that look potentially useful too.
zenvideo
17 May 2012, 10:27
I will certainly hunt out Yuan at the big IFSEC 2012 security industry show in Birmingham next week and see about getting one of these cards, and look for any other capture cards and related items that look potentially useful too.
Went to the IFSEC International security show yesterday and visited the Yuan stand. As well as the various capture cards, of which they didn't have the HDMI version with them, they had usefull accessories like SDI<>HDMI converters. Their product list also includes both USB3 & Thunderbolt capture devices with analogue, SDI & HDMI video inputs. Picture attached of some of the cards that were on show.
Aside from that, there was quite a lot of CCTV equipment with potential cross-over use for video production and webcasting, with a lot of HD-SDI cameras and transmission equipment appearing alongside IP devices. The asian manufacturers have certainly embraced HD-SDI, but unfortunately most of the "HD" cameras are a big let-down in terms of picture quality. I've never seen so many awful HD cameras gathered together in one place - it's the sort of thing that gives HD a bad name! Still, given that the CCTV world rarely exploits the full potential of standard definition video, it's little surprise that their marketing departments are trying to up-sell HD using cameras whose picture quality is hardly better than SD. The positive side of all this is that items that convert and distribute HD-SDI & HDMI will work just as well with a high-quality camera input, but will cost less when aimed at the CCTV market than those made by "broadcast" manufacturers.
Along with SDI<>HDMI converters and splitters, there were items like fibre converters which could be useful in sports/events coverage where long cable runs are needed, including both video and PTZ control down the same fibre cable.
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